1 00:00:09,950 --> 00:00:06,909 [Music] 2 00:00:11,959 --> 00:00:09,960 I know you have books to sell but please 3 00:00:16,609 --> 00:00:11,969 don't tell me you think that he was 4 00:00:18,380 --> 00:00:16,619 killed in prison I believe that the 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:18,390 circumstances surrounding his death 6 00:00:22,550 --> 00:00:20,730 raise a lot of questions first and 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:22,560 foremost someone that tries to commit 8 00:00:27,980 --> 00:00:25,050 suicide is not released back into 9 00:00:32,290 --> 00:00:27,990 regular prison population some two weeks 10 00:00:35,060 --> 00:00:32,300 thereafter typically put in confinement 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:35,070 instead Jeffrey Epstein was allowed to 12 00:00:43,160 --> 00:00:38,450 return to his cell no cellmate to 13 00:00:45,380 --> 00:00:43,170 seemingly watch him and he's given an 14 00:00:48,590 --> 00:00:45,390 appliance with an electrical cord and 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:48,600 he's given bedsheets under no protocols 16 00:00:53,660 --> 00:00:50,850 or procedures at any jail in America 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:53,670 would that be considered the right form 18 00:00:58,459 --> 00:00:56,010 of action to do for someone who 19 00:01:00,099 --> 00:00:58,469 attempted to commit suicide so I believe 20 00:01:02,029 --> 00:01:00,109 the Jeffrey Epstein did commit suicide 21 00:01:04,729 --> 00:01:02,039 but I believe that there was a 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:04,739 conspiracy behind it and I believe he 23 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:06,210 was given the means motive and 24 00:01:10,910 --> 00:01:08,810 opportunity to take his own life 25 00:01:12,620 --> 00:01:10,920 well yeah you guys do a great job of 26 00:01:15,830 --> 00:01:12,630 providing information that I had not 27 00:01:19,670 --> 00:01:15,840 seen before that really details his time 28 00:01:22,130 --> 00:01:19,680 in jail his access incredible access to 29 00:01:24,530 --> 00:01:22,140 lawyers and in particular what I thought 30 00:01:27,350 --> 00:01:24,540 was interesting was you guys say that 31 00:01:29,780 --> 00:01:27,360 when he was on suicide watch that was a 32 00:01:32,630 --> 00:01:29,790 horrendous experience for him that it is 33 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:32,640 not fun to be on suicide watch you're in 34 00:01:39,140 --> 00:01:35,250 a miserable cell with a sheet as a 35 00:01:41,780 --> 00:01:39,150 blanket and that he probably used his 36 00:01:44,749 --> 00:01:41,790 lawyers to help him get off of suicide 37 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:44,759 watch well absolutely and and part of 38 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:48,090 the notion of constantly calling his 39 00:01:52,039 --> 00:01:49,770 lawyers while at the Metropolitan 40 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:52,049 Correctional Facility here in Manhattan 41 00:01:56,060 --> 00:01:53,850 was so that he wouldn't be in 42 00:01:58,219 --> 00:01:56,070 confinement that he would spend all day 43 00:02:00,709 --> 00:01:58,229 talking to his lawyers I don't think 44 00:02:02,990 --> 00:02:00,719 though that being on suicide watch for 45 00:02:05,830 --> 00:02:03,000 someone of his ilk is necessarily 46 00:02:10,369 --> 00:02:05,840 horrendous perhaps it's poetic justice 47 00:02:12,500 --> 00:02:10,379 so so you don't subscribe you believe 48 00:02:14,059 --> 00:02:12,510 that he did if I kill himself because I 49 00:02:17,149 --> 00:02:14,069 mean we certainly have no 50 00:02:19,490 --> 00:02:17,159 of anything else granted some cameras 51 00:02:22,640 --> 00:02:19,500 were not working some guards were asleep 52 00:02:26,059 --> 00:02:22,650 but still we have zero evidence of 53 00:02:29,449 --> 00:02:26,069 anyone entering his cell any evidence 54 00:02:31,069 --> 00:02:29,459 left behind by anyone so you are 55 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:31,079 subscribing at this point that he did in 56 00:02:33,710 --> 00:02:32,250 fact kill himself 57 00:02:34,970 --> 00:02:33,720 you're just questioning the 58 00:02:37,369 --> 00:02:34,980 circumstances under which that was 59 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:37,379 permitted to to happen that's 100% 60 00:02:44,059 --> 00:02:39,450 correct and obviously this was an 61 00:02:46,910 --> 00:02:44,069 individual whom knew too much who had 62 00:02:49,399 --> 00:02:46,920 the key revelation of epstein dead men 63 00:02:53,780 --> 00:02:49,409 tell no tales is that Jeffrey Epstein 64 00:02:58,039 --> 00:02:53,790 not only was a heinous sex trafficker he 65 00:03:00,710 --> 00:02:58,049 was someone whom ran an international 66 00:03:04,059 --> 00:03:00,720 sex trafficking ring also all while 67 00:03:06,949 --> 00:03:04,069 being a member of Israelis Mossad an 68 00:03:08,270 --> 00:03:06,959 international spy and as conspiratorial 69 00:03:11,990 --> 00:03:08,280 as that sounds 70 00:03:12,679 --> 00:03:12,000 consider these facts he's closest 71 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:12,689 confidant 72 00:03:20,089 --> 00:03:16,290 he's procure procurer and alleged pin 73 00:03:22,490 --> 00:03:20,099 Ghislaine Maxwell is the daughter of 74 00:03:25,309 --> 00:03:22,500 former British press tycoon Robert 75 00:03:29,210 --> 00:03:25,319 Maxwell who owned the mirror news group 76 00:03:33,020 --> 00:03:29,220 but also was a known Mossad agent until 77 00:03:35,149 --> 00:03:33,030 he was assassinated in 1991 and in our 78 00:03:39,020 --> 00:03:35,159 book we speak to Ari Ben Missoni 79 00:03:41,449 --> 00:03:39,030 who is a former Israeli spy handler for 80 00:03:44,180 --> 00:03:41,459 the Mossad and he says that the business 81 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:44,190 of spying was turned over to Epstein and 82 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:48,090 Ghislaine in the late 1980s so for 30 83 00:03:54,050 --> 00:03:51,690 years or so Jeffrey Epstein roamed on 84 00:03:56,180 --> 00:03:54,060 United States soil collecting 85 00:03:58,879 --> 00:03:56,190 information on the rich and powerful and 86 00:04:01,009 --> 00:03:58,889 funneling it back to Israel for the 87 00:04:02,719 --> 00:04:01,019 benefit of them and these are people 88 00:04:07,099 --> 00:04:02,729 that he was hanging out with like Bill 89 00:04:09,319 --> 00:04:07,109 Clinton and Bill Gates and others where 90 00:04:12,349 --> 00:04:09,329 discussions about technology at taking 91 00:04:14,119 --> 00:04:12,359 place where discussions with Bill 92 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:14,129 Clinton are taking place at a time when 93 00:04:19,899 --> 00:04:16,409 his wife is a senator and later 94 00:04:22,610 --> 00:04:19,909 Secretary of State the u.s. positions on 95 00:04:25,459 --> 00:04:22,620 international issues and issues of 96 00:04:26,580 --> 00:04:25,469 international diplomacy inevitably were 97 00:04:28,860 --> 00:04:26,590 being shared with Jeff 98 00:04:31,170 --> 00:04:28,870 reacting and funneled back to these 99 00:04:34,500 --> 00:04:31,180 Riley governments that was very highly 100 00:04:36,629 --> 00:04:34,510 valuable information yeah it definitely 101 00:04:40,230 --> 00:04:36,639 appears that Maxwell was Mossad and 102 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:40,240 perhaps killed by Mossad and it 103 00:04:43,650 --> 00:04:42,490 certainly is believable that his 104 00:04:45,180 --> 00:04:43,660 daughter was wrapped up to it and 105 00:04:48,750 --> 00:04:45,190 brought Epstein into it but as far as 106 00:04:51,420 --> 00:04:48,760 actual evidence of it actual evidence 107 00:04:53,550 --> 00:04:51,430 that in fact he blackmailed this person 108 00:04:55,530 --> 00:04:53,560 or that person what I've been waiting to 109 00:04:57,540 --> 00:04:55,540 see we hear about these photographs that 110 00:05:00,540 --> 00:04:57,550 were found in his New York apartment etc 111 00:05:02,310 --> 00:05:00,550 of a lot of girls etc but as far as you 112 00:05:06,210 --> 00:05:02,320 know have they found any pictures of 113 00:05:09,030 --> 00:05:06,220 girls with men such that he would use 114 00:05:10,770 --> 00:05:09,040 them for blackmail so let me answer that 115 00:05:12,900 --> 00:05:10,780 question twofold 116 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:12,910 I'm one of the very few people that have 117 00:05:19,260 --> 00:05:16,330 seen the inside of Epstein's New York 118 00:05:21,210 --> 00:05:19,270 townhouse through a series of hundreds 119 00:05:24,270 --> 00:05:21,220 and hundreds and hundreds of photographs 120 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:24,280 never went inside the house but every 121 00:05:30,060 --> 00:05:26,770 single room was rigged up with a camera 122 00:05:32,310 --> 00:05:30,070 that fed back into a security hub 123 00:05:35,010 --> 00:05:32,320 central area and next to it was an 124 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:35,020 office that had four industrial-sized 125 00:05:40,830 --> 00:05:37,690 Xerox machines everything that was 126 00:05:44,089 --> 00:05:40,840 recorded was kept digitally and hard 127 00:05:46,860 --> 00:05:44,099 copies were printed into files the same 128 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:46,870 facility existed in the palm beach mount 129 00:05:52,770 --> 00:05:49,690 Palm Beach our residence and one could 130 00:05:57,210 --> 00:05:52,780 only assume New Mexico Paris and also 131 00:06:00,060 --> 00:05:57,220 orgy Ireland now this is a really 132 00:06:03,930 --> 00:06:00,070 remarkable scenario because if you go 133 00:06:05,879 --> 00:06:03,940 back to 2006 when Epstein was prosecuted 134 00:06:08,550 --> 00:06:05,889 in Florida and got the so-called 135 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:08,560 sweetheart plea deal of the century that 136 00:06:13,770 --> 00:06:11,770 ultimately saw him be able to roam free 137 00:06:18,779 --> 00:06:13,780 during the day and sleep in a cell at 138 00:06:21,330 --> 00:06:18,789 night under Florida law any evidence 139 00:06:24,180 --> 00:06:21,340 that he's accumulated in a local law 140 00:06:26,670 --> 00:06:24,190 enforcement matter is released to the 141 00:06:29,610 --> 00:06:26,680 public under what's known as the 142 00:06:31,710 --> 00:06:29,620 Sunshine Law it's why when Casey Anthony 143 00:06:34,980 --> 00:06:31,720 was accused of killing her daughter 144 00:06:36,980 --> 00:06:34,990 Caylee it fascinated a nation because we 145 00:06:39,959 --> 00:06:36,990 saw every single piece of evidence 146 00:06:42,299 --> 00:06:39,969 released we saw every jail 147 00:06:45,239 --> 00:06:42,309 phone call that she ever had with her 148 00:06:49,109 --> 00:06:45,249 parents released but none of the Epstein 149 00:06:53,039 --> 00:06:49,119 files have ever been released also when 150 00:06:56,369 --> 00:06:53,049 one dies the FBI releases their file 151 00:06:59,669 --> 00:06:56,379 the FBI has not in the case of Jeffrey 152 00:07:02,759 --> 00:06:59,679 Epstein so much so that I filed a 153 00:07:05,939 --> 00:07:02,769 Freedom of Information Law Act lawsuit 154 00:07:09,389 --> 00:07:05,949 against the FBI seeking to have them 155 00:07:11,519 --> 00:07:09,399 release their entire file into epstein 156 00:07:14,969 --> 00:07:11,529 what they released was embarrassingly 157 00:07:17,549 --> 00:07:14,979 and heavily redacted it failed to 158 00:07:20,969 --> 00:07:17,559 disclose anything of substance which 159 00:07:23,279 --> 00:07:20,979 begs the question if both the Florida 160 00:07:26,009 --> 00:07:23,289 law enforcement authorities at a local 161 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:26,019 level at a state level and at a federal 162 00:07:30,089 --> 00:07:27,610 level are not prepared to release the 163 00:07:33,029 --> 00:07:30,099 evidence then what's in it what are they 164 00:07:35,249 --> 00:07:33,039 hiding well you'll be happy to know that 165 00:07:37,579 --> 00:07:35,259 according to reports on Monday 166 00:07:41,159 --> 00:07:37,589 Palm Beach County finally released 167 00:07:43,709 --> 00:07:41,169 troves of records information that 168 00:07:45,029 --> 00:07:43,719 information had already been released so 169 00:07:47,549 --> 00:07:45,039 just think the thing that was in the 170 00:07:50,489 --> 00:07:47,559 news on Monday is not really news not 171 00:07:52,259 --> 00:07:50,499 news not news at all I have every single 172 00:07:55,499 --> 00:07:52,269 one of those files and have had them 173 00:07:57,929 --> 00:07:55,509 under freedom of information for the 174 00:07:59,629 --> 00:07:57,939 best part of a year okay so what do they 175 00:08:03,389 --> 00:07:59,639 have that has not been released then 176 00:08:06,149 --> 00:08:03,399 seemingly any video types or audio tapes 177 00:08:08,399 --> 00:08:06,159 that might have been recorded inside 178 00:08:11,189 --> 00:08:08,409 Epstein's mansion now there is a curious 179 00:08:14,579 --> 00:08:11,199 individual who ties into this his name 180 00:08:15,239 --> 00:08:14,589 is John mark Dugan he currently lives in 181 00:08:18,809 --> 00:08:15,249 Russia 182 00:08:21,509 --> 00:08:18,819 he's a former sheriff at the Palm Beach 183 00:08:23,569 --> 00:08:21,519 County Sheriff's Department he fled to 184 00:08:25,769 --> 00:08:23,579 Russia and sought political asylum 185 00:08:28,499 --> 00:08:25,779 fearing that he was ultimately going to 186 00:08:32,009 --> 00:08:28,509 be jailed for what he says was exposing 187 00:08:35,779 --> 00:08:32,019 corruption at the state level he claims 188 00:08:41,119 --> 00:08:35,789 that he took with him to Russia the DVDs 189 00:08:43,860 --> 00:08:41,129 the electronic files of Epstein's 190 00:08:47,970 --> 00:08:43,870 trafficking ring with him to Russia 191 00:08:49,740 --> 00:08:47,980 which if he did and my sources have 192 00:08:53,010 --> 00:08:49,750 independently verified that he does 193 00:08:55,380 --> 00:08:53,020 indeed have a copy of that information 194 00:08:57,980 --> 00:08:55,390 then that is significant because it is 195 00:09:00,330 --> 00:08:57,990 within the grasp of the Kremlin and 196 00:09:03,750 --> 00:09:00,340 Vladimir Putin could certainly use that 197 00:09:06,780 --> 00:09:03,760 as leverage to blackmail individuals in 198 00:09:08,970 --> 00:09:06,790 America so to be clear on these DVDs 199 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:08,980 that he fled the country with and now 200 00:09:16,710 --> 00:09:11,290 has with him in Russia those would have 201 00:09:18,990 --> 00:09:16,720 men in the videos uh seemingly you would 202 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:19,000 have to think so he won't comment on the 203 00:09:24,570 --> 00:09:21,970 contents of the videos and all he'll say 204 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:24,580 is that they are encrypted files but 205 00:09:31,530 --> 00:09:28,210 they are the recordings of what took 206 00:09:33,980 --> 00:09:31,540 place inside the Palm Beach mansion and 207 00:09:37,710 --> 00:09:33,990 what is it exactly that caused him to 208 00:09:41,250 --> 00:09:37,720 flee the United States of America to 209 00:09:44,940 --> 00:09:41,260 Russia he says that he was exposing 210 00:09:46,980 --> 00:09:44,950 corruption and ultimately he said that 211 00:09:49,590 --> 00:09:46,990 he was going to he believed be found 212 00:09:52,230 --> 00:09:49,600 guilty in a setup of the local sheriff's 213 00:09:54,540 --> 00:09:52,240 department and face jail time so he fled 214 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:54,550 left his family behind and sought 215 00:09:59,790 --> 00:09:56,770 political asylum successfully in Russia 216 00:10:01,920 --> 00:09:59,800 I see so so he would fish jail time for 217 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:01,930 improperly taking these files with him 218 00:10:06,180 --> 00:10:03,730 outside of the police department and 219 00:10:08,700 --> 00:10:06,190 other allegations that he's been accused 220 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:08,710 of by the Palm Beach County Sheriff's 221 00:10:15,330 --> 00:10:11,410 Department is it your theory that 222 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:15,340 Epstein went virtually free in Florida 223 00:10:19,950 --> 00:10:18,010 because he in fact was an agent that 224 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:19,960 that phone calls were made that this guy 225 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:21,850 is essentially not to be touched 226 00:10:27,930 --> 00:10:25,090 absolutely and Alex accosted Trump's 227 00:10:30,660 --> 00:10:27,940 former Labor Secretary has alluded as 228 00:10:32,820 --> 00:10:30,670 much by saying that he was told hands 229 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:32,830 off in the prosecution can you believe 230 00:10:36,540 --> 00:10:34,810 that you know we talked about this being 231 00:10:39,690 --> 00:10:36,550 a sweetheart plea deal of the century 232 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:39,700 that saw him serve some 13 months jail 233 00:10:44,970 --> 00:10:42,610 time the day before the grand jury heard 234 00:10:47,700 --> 00:10:44,980 this case he was actually offered an 235 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:47,710 even sweeter deal that would have seen 236 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:51,490 him not serve any jail time whatsoever 237 00:10:56,430 --> 00:10:53,890 which begs the question why did he not 238 00:10:58,530 --> 00:10:56,440 take it he thought that he was never he 239 00:11:00,270 --> 00:10:58,540 had to plead guilty he thought that he 240 00:11:02,079 --> 00:11:00,280 didn't have to because he was a 241 00:11:04,689 --> 00:11:02,089 protected asset 242 00:11:07,110 --> 00:11:04,699 and subsequent to that let me ask you 243 00:11:10,689 --> 00:11:07,120 this question why all of a sudden in 244 00:11:13,030 --> 00:11:10,699 2019 if the federal government who part 245 00:11:15,519 --> 00:11:13,040 this case off to the Palm Beach County 246 00:11:17,650 --> 00:11:15,529 Sheriff's Department decide that they 247 00:11:20,939 --> 00:11:17,660 wanted to prosecute it they had an 248 00:11:26,799 --> 00:11:20,949 opportunity when he was released in 2011 249 00:11:29,860 --> 00:11:26,809 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 and a part of 19 250 00:11:33,730 --> 00:11:29,870 but chose to allow him to continue his 251 00:11:36,249 --> 00:11:33,740 sex trafficking ring one must ask what 252 00:11:39,699 --> 00:11:36,259 did the government know when did it know 253 00:11:41,799 --> 00:11:39,709 who knew and who covered it up because 254 00:11:44,799 --> 00:11:41,809 the one thing I can assure you is that 255 00:11:48,189 --> 00:11:44,809 there is a cover-up at the very heart of 256 00:11:49,929 --> 00:11:48,199 Jeffrey Epstein's behavior over the 257 00:11:52,660 --> 00:11:49,939 course of three decades 258 00:11:57,100 --> 00:11:52,670 yeah whatever protection he felt that he 259 00:11:58,809 --> 00:11:57,110 had in Miami presumably went away hence 260 00:12:01,090 --> 00:11:58,819 the reason he was arrested for a second 261 00:12:02,439 --> 00:12:01,100 time and perhaps also the reason that he 262 00:12:03,579 --> 00:12:02,449 committed suicide because one of the 263 00:12:03,910 --> 00:12:03,589 struggles for me was always we'll wait a 264 00:12:05,739 --> 00:12:03,920 minute 265 00:12:07,809 --> 00:12:05,749 he hired a dream team of lawyers that 266 00:12:09,460 --> 00:12:07,819 helped him get off in Florida he's got 267 00:12:11,739 --> 00:12:09,470 all the same money he can hire the same 268 00:12:13,869 --> 00:12:11,749 dream team Oh Jay got off in the past 269 00:12:16,809 --> 00:12:13,879 why couldn't he why didn't he have the 270 00:12:18,309 --> 00:12:16,819 fortitude to stick with it and take this 271 00:12:21,579 --> 00:12:18,319 thing through trial with his dream team 272 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:21,589 of lawyers he must have realized that 273 00:12:27,369 --> 00:12:24,970 the gig is up in some way yes I think 274 00:12:29,730 --> 00:12:27,379 you could argue that we're in a 275 00:12:34,119 --> 00:12:29,740 different era as well and that 276 00:12:37,389 --> 00:12:34,129 regardless of whatever legal team he 277 00:12:39,879 --> 00:12:37,399 would be able to assemble we're in a 278 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:39,889 very different climate than what we were 279 00:12:47,980 --> 00:12:45,170 in 2006 when he originally was 280 00:12:50,799 --> 00:12:47,990 investigated in Florida but the reality 281 00:12:55,329 --> 00:12:50,809 is the FBI to accumulated something like 282 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:55,339 32 underage women but Jeffrey Epstein 283 00:13:01,299 --> 00:12:57,730 was only ever convicted on one count of 284 00:13:06,030 --> 00:13:01,309 abusing a minor one must ask itself the 285 00:13:10,210 --> 00:13:06,040 question again why did Jeffrey Epstein 286 00:13:12,939 --> 00:13:10,220 why was the evidence of 32 women not 287 00:13:14,970 --> 00:13:12,949 used against Jeffrey Epstein and I think 288 00:13:17,699 --> 00:13:14,980 the answer lies within 289 00:13:21,930 --> 00:13:17,709 what the government knew why he decided 290 00:13:23,819 --> 00:13:21,940 to protect Jeffrey Epstein what kind of 291 00:13:26,879 --> 00:13:23,829 phone calls were placed on his behalf as 292 00:13:29,910 --> 00:13:26,889 far as we know you know you point out 293 00:13:32,310 --> 00:13:29,920 that Alex Acosta at one point apparently 294 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:32,320 said that he had heard that he was an 295 00:13:35,639 --> 00:13:33,970 agent I don't think we've ever heard a 296 00:13:39,090 --> 00:13:35,649 cost to really say that first hand he 297 00:13:40,980 --> 00:13:39,100 certainly didn't say in his ear he said 298 00:13:43,530 --> 00:13:40,990 he was told hands off this is above your 299 00:13:46,620 --> 00:13:43,540 pay grade or words to that effect to 300 00:13:48,180 --> 00:13:46,630 paraphrase so is it would it be your 301 00:13:51,470 --> 00:13:48,190 theory that essentially it came down 302 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:51,480 from the Attorney General to Acosta well 303 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:53,970 inevitably in these types of situations 304 00:13:59,879 --> 00:13:57,130 the highest levels of government would 305 00:14:02,160 --> 00:13:59,889 be making these types of calls what I 306 00:14:05,069 --> 00:14:02,170 would say to your question in a 307 00:14:09,680 --> 00:14:05,079 roundabout way is be careful what you 308 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:09,690 wish for the House Democrats have sought 309 00:14:14,730 --> 00:14:12,610 additional information from the FBI and 310 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:14,740 local government authorities that has 311 00:14:18,660 --> 00:14:16,930 not been released to the public but of 312 00:14:23,910 --> 00:14:18,670 course this is a democratically elected 313 00:14:26,180 --> 00:14:23,920 House the issue that they face is time 314 00:14:29,879 --> 00:14:26,190 the Jeffrey Epstein was effectively 315 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:29,889 allowed to roam free as a spy on our 316 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:30,610 shores 317 00:14:39,030 --> 00:14:33,970 we had a Democrat in the White House and 318 00:14:41,069 --> 00:14:39,040 a Democrat Attorney General so if 319 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:41,079 they're going to try and weaponize this 320 00:14:46,500 --> 00:14:43,690 against Donald Trump in an effort to try 321 00:14:48,090 --> 00:14:46,510 and besmirched the GOP or others that 322 00:14:50,490 --> 00:14:48,100 might have been involved in a so-called 323 00:14:54,780 --> 00:14:50,500 cover-up their hands are as dirty as 324 00:14:56,490 --> 00:14:54,790 anyone elses did you guys try to reach 325 00:15:00,300 --> 00:14:56,500 Alex Acosta and as he's speaking to 326 00:15:03,139 --> 00:15:00,310 anybody at this point he's not he he's 327 00:15:06,540 --> 00:15:03,149 letting a very very quiet life in 328 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:06,550 Florida so your theory would be that 329 00:15:12,090 --> 00:15:09,850 there are in fact these recordings that 330 00:15:14,610 --> 00:15:12,100 were designed for blackmail that they 331 00:15:16,829 --> 00:15:14,620 were done for Israel so therefore 332 00:15:22,130 --> 00:15:16,839 provided to Israel Israel has these and 333 00:15:27,300 --> 00:15:22,140 in fact may have used them in order to 334 00:15:28,410 --> 00:15:27,310 advance its agenda and use them against 335 00:15:32,519 --> 00:15:28,420 the likes of 336 00:15:35,639 --> 00:15:32,529 a Bill Clinton or a Bill Richardson who 337 00:15:40,379 --> 00:15:35,649 knows what they used and used against 338 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:40,389 whom but the Israel government's spying 339 00:15:45,269 --> 00:15:42,490 on the United States has long been 340 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:45,279 documented and a simple google search 341 00:15:50,519 --> 00:15:48,010 will show that FBI whistleblowers have 342 00:15:52,769 --> 00:15:50,529 spoken at linked in the past of 343 00:15:55,199 --> 00:15:52,779 something like a hundred and twenty five 344 00:15:58,590 --> 00:15:55,209 instances in which the Israeli 345 00:16:00,420 --> 00:15:58,600 government has spied on the US 346 00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:00,430 government including the White House 347 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:05,680 without retribution walk me through your 348 00:16:11,069 --> 00:16:07,290 theory that there was a conspiracy 349 00:16:13,170 --> 00:16:11,079 related to his time in prison you know I 350 00:16:14,819 --> 00:16:13,180 there was a lot of negligence a lot of 351 00:16:17,100 --> 00:16:14,829 negligence went on there but you could 352 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:17,110 never overestimate the ability of the 353 00:16:20,699 --> 00:16:18,850 government to poorly run something so 354 00:16:22,889 --> 00:16:20,709 what leads you to believe it was beyond 355 00:16:25,500 --> 00:16:22,899 gross negligence in actual conspiracy 356 00:16:28,740 --> 00:16:25,510 you're absolutely right it could be 357 00:16:32,069 --> 00:16:28,750 gross negligence but you know where 358 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:32,079 there's smoke there's a new pub it seems 359 00:16:39,630 --> 00:16:35,250 to me that there are far too many 360 00:16:41,939 --> 00:16:39,640 instances here that can be easily put or 361 00:16:45,449 --> 00:16:41,949 dismantled by saying it was a lapse in 362 00:16:47,460 --> 00:16:45,459 judgment the reality was nothing went 363 00:16:50,759 --> 00:16:47,470 right for the US government in 364 00:16:54,079 --> 00:16:50,769 protecting Jeffrey Epstein and IVA 365 00:16:57,269 --> 00:16:54,089 conspiracy existed it would likely be 366 00:17:00,449 --> 00:16:57,279 that he was targeted as a man who knew 367 00:17:03,870 --> 00:17:00,459 too much and the best way to deal with 368 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:03,880 him would be to have him silenced how do 369 00:17:08,789 --> 00:17:05,890 you silence someone you either murder 370 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:08,799 them or if you believe that they're in a 371 00:17:14,010 --> 00:17:11,410 state of a suicidal nature which he was 372 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:14,020 you give them the means and opportunity 373 00:17:18,780 --> 00:17:15,730 to commit suicide 374 00:17:21,780 --> 00:17:18,790 no doctor over prescribes medication to 375 00:17:24,980 --> 00:17:21,790 someone who is suicidal no one who is 376 00:17:28,919 --> 00:17:24,990 suicidal in prison he's given bedsheets 377 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:28,929 to kill themselves I'm glad you brought 378 00:17:31,799 --> 00:17:30,250 up medications cuz that's been something 379 00:17:34,169 --> 00:17:31,809 I've been thinking about in a potential 380 00:17:36,690 --> 00:17:34,179 theory is what kind of meds was this guy 381 00:17:39,630 --> 00:17:36,700 on you know clearly he was a sociopath 382 00:17:41,460 --> 00:17:39,640 with probably all kinds of other issues 383 00:17:43,710 --> 00:17:41,470 a sex addict 384 00:17:45,180 --> 00:17:43,720 do we know whether he was on meds and 385 00:17:47,130 --> 00:17:45,190 whether those meds were provided to him 386 00:17:49,799 --> 00:17:47,140 when he was in prison we do know that 387 00:17:51,450 --> 00:17:49,809 inside the jail cell there was about 388 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:51,460 three or four pill bottles I actually 389 00:17:56,370 --> 00:17:54,490 don't know specifically the medications 390 00:17:59,130 --> 00:17:56,380 that were found 391 00:18:02,159 --> 00:17:59,140 I know 60 minutes did report the names 392 00:18:04,409 --> 00:18:02,169 of those medications I don't know them 393 00:18:07,620 --> 00:18:04,419 off the top of my head one thing we do 394 00:18:08,070 --> 00:18:07,630 know about Jeffrey Epstein is to your 395 00:18:11,010 --> 00:18:08,080 point 396 00:18:14,250 --> 00:18:11,020 he wasn't narcissistic sociopath which 397 00:18:16,380 --> 00:18:14,260 in part has spurred the suspicions of 398 00:18:18,570 --> 00:18:16,390 those that have said that he committed 399 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:18,580 suicide he was murdered because a 400 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:20,650 narcissistic sociopath would never 401 00:18:24,919 --> 00:18:23,110 commit suicide well I think the reality 402 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:24,929 is we're dealing with a completely 403 00:18:32,159 --> 00:18:28,450 separate set of circumstances Jeffrey 404 00:18:36,450 --> 00:18:32,169 Epstein is a spy knew that his time on 405 00:18:40,110 --> 00:18:36,460 this planet was limited that he was a 406 00:18:45,740 --> 00:18:40,120 man who knew too much and that others 407 00:18:49,529 --> 00:18:45,750 would seemingly benefit from his death 408 00:18:54,270 --> 00:18:49,539 he was a very very loyal individual to 409 00:18:58,740 --> 00:18:54,280 give a Maxwell who he's now seemingly on 410 00:19:01,440 --> 00:18:58,750 the run from justice and maybe he made 411 00:19:04,049 --> 00:19:01,450 the decision that committing suicide was 412 00:19:06,630 --> 00:19:04,059 going to protect the secrets that he had 413 00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:06,640 accumulated for years and been able to 414 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:10,240 live the life that he led as a result of 415 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:13,570 his work for the Mossad so let's go 416 00:19:18,779 --> 00:19:15,970 through some names now and see who's 417 00:19:21,390 --> 00:19:18,789 who's sweating the most right now 418 00:19:23,750 --> 00:19:21,400 probably me I'm sweating him I'm in a 419 00:19:26,190 --> 00:19:23,760 very very hot office 420 00:19:27,750 --> 00:19:26,200 well hopefully you have no reason to 421 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:27,760 sweat over what might be refer the 422 00:19:33,299 --> 00:19:29,530 revealed regarding Epstein no I I 423 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:33,309 actually don't although you said you've 424 00:19:40,020 --> 00:19:38,890 been to the apartment so some 425 00:19:41,399 --> 00:19:40,030 interesting people have been to the 426 00:19:43,409 --> 00:19:41,409 apartment according to your book 427 00:19:46,260 --> 00:19:43,419 including Katie Couric and Charlie Rose 428 00:19:49,830 --> 00:19:46,270 and Chelsea Handler and Woody Allen and 429 00:19:51,750 --> 00:19:49,840 George Stephanopoulos walk us through 430 00:19:53,460 --> 00:19:51,760 some of the names associated with this 431 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:53,470 you know Andrew probably being the most 432 00:20:00,480 --> 00:19:56,970 obvious one as far as who's likely to 433 00:20:02,340 --> 00:20:00,490 take the fall eventually on this so with 434 00:20:04,380 --> 00:20:02,350 regards to the first set of nines that 435 00:20:06,060 --> 00:20:04,390 you mentioned they attend the dinner 436 00:20:07,830 --> 00:20:06,070 party and I don't believe that they 437 00:20:10,889 --> 00:20:07,840 would have gone up to anything nefarious 438 00:20:14,460 --> 00:20:10,899 behind the walls of his mansion but 439 00:20:17,399 --> 00:20:14,470 there their presence at his mansion by 440 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:17,409 its very nature shows how Jeffrey 441 00:20:21,649 --> 00:20:19,210 Epstein was able to ingratiate himself 442 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:21,659 back within the establishment of 443 00:20:27,659 --> 00:20:25,090 Manhattan without people that are 444 00:20:32,039 --> 00:20:27,669 seemingly very intelligent like Katie 445 00:20:35,580 --> 00:20:32,049 Couric and the ABC anchor George 446 00:20:38,010 --> 00:20:35,590 Stephanopoulos going to his home and not 447 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:38,020 realizing that they're going to the home 448 00:20:42,899 --> 00:20:41,530 of a convicted sex offender that is 449 00:20:45,630 --> 00:20:42,909 mostly to show the power and influence 450 00:20:47,159 --> 00:20:45,640 in which he had was he at that party 451 00:20:49,620 --> 00:20:47,169 that you guys talk about in the book I 452 00:20:51,210 --> 00:20:49,630 believe he was yes I believe he was it 453 00:20:54,450 --> 00:20:51,220 was a party that was organized by a 454 00:20:56,490 --> 00:20:54,460 publicist in Manhattan who some that has 455 00:20:58,230 --> 00:20:56,500 come out and tried to minimize her 456 00:21:00,990 --> 00:20:58,240 involvement just like everyone else 457 00:21:02,700 --> 00:21:01,000 associated with Jeffrey Epstein they 458 00:21:04,889 --> 00:21:02,710 were all attempting to minimize their 459 00:21:07,110 --> 00:21:04,899 involvement in Prince Andrew his perhaps 460 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:07,120 the biggest example of them he's 461 00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:11,770 interview on television with the BBC in 462 00:21:16,649 --> 00:21:13,840 England could only be described as 463 00:21:19,380 --> 00:21:16,659 trainwreck television of the highest 464 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:19,390 autumn here was someone who tried to 465 00:21:25,020 --> 00:21:22,090 mitigate his involvement but only dug 466 00:21:28,350 --> 00:21:25,030 his himself deeper from what we've 467 00:21:30,450 --> 00:21:28,360 learned from Jeffrey Berman the head of 468 00:21:32,610 --> 00:21:30,460 the Southern District of New York is 469 00:21:35,810 --> 00:21:32,620 that they want to speak to Prince Andrew 470 00:21:38,310 --> 00:21:35,820 but he they've seemingly been blocked by 471 00:21:40,649 --> 00:21:38,320 Buckingham Palace now the palace denies 472 00:21:42,899 --> 00:21:40,659 that and says Andrew is prepared to 473 00:21:46,470 --> 00:21:42,909 answer questions it'll be a very 474 00:21:50,669 --> 00:21:46,480 interesting scenario if he attempts to 475 00:21:52,980 --> 00:21:50,679 try and answer those questions but does 476 00:21:54,899 --> 00:21:52,990 so under the cover of diplomatic 477 00:21:58,020 --> 00:21:54,909 immunity which would mean that he 478 00:22:00,539 --> 00:21:58,030 couldn't be charged with a crime if when 479 00:22:01,650 --> 00:22:00,549 he was here he was doing official 480 00:22:04,620 --> 00:22:01,660 business 481 00:22:10,169 --> 00:22:04,630 now we saw recently a case in Britain 482 00:22:13,860 --> 00:22:10,179 where the the wire of an US diplomat 483 00:22:16,020 --> 00:22:13,870 sought diplomatic immunity after the car 484 00:22:18,930 --> 00:22:16,030 crash either severely injured or or 485 00:22:20,970 --> 00:22:18,940 killed someone so Prince Andrew is well 486 00:22:23,070 --> 00:22:20,980 within the sights of law enforcement and 487 00:22:25,620 --> 00:22:23,080 I believe that he has a lot of 488 00:22:29,510 --> 00:22:25,630 legitimate questions to answer in our 489 00:22:32,430 --> 00:22:29,520 book we expose a previously unreported 490 00:22:36,930 --> 00:22:32,440 visit that he made to the New Mexico 491 00:22:40,110 --> 00:22:36,940 Zorro lands of Jeffrey Epstein and speak 492 00:22:43,649 --> 00:22:40,120 to the housemaid who says that he was 493 00:22:45,899 --> 00:22:43,659 told she was told to look after Prince 494 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:45,909 Andrew not sexually but give him 495 00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:47,650 everything that he wanted and needed 496 00:22:53,460 --> 00:22:50,080 he's never disclosed that publicly and 497 00:22:55,649 --> 00:22:53,470 whilst he has been minimized inside the 498 00:22:58,260 --> 00:22:55,659 monarchy this potentially could be the 499 00:22:59,730 --> 00:22:58,270 biggest scandal to hit the Royals since 500 00:23:01,380 --> 00:22:59,740 well I guess they're going through their 501 00:23:04,250 --> 00:23:01,390 own scandal at the moment with harrying 502 00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:04,260 million but since the death of Diana 503 00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:06,400 could just check your microphone your 504 00:23:12,149 --> 00:23:09,360 audio got a litt microphone you're using 505 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:12,159 or just maybe a little closer just the 506 00:23:17,820 --> 00:23:15,730 microphone of the component okay if this 507 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:17,830 is a blackmail scheme what's to be 508 00:23:29,820 --> 00:23:24,450 gained from a Prince Andrew ultimately 509 00:23:32,909 --> 00:23:29,830 the British monarchy and the Queen forms 510 00:23:35,580 --> 00:23:32,919 the government and to have compromising 511 00:23:37,860 --> 00:23:35,590 information in the United Kingdom on a 512 00:23:42,710 --> 00:23:37,870 member of the monarchy would be 513 00:23:45,620 --> 00:23:42,720 significant it may have involved 514 00:23:48,659 --> 00:23:45,630 blackmailing for financial gain 515 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:48,669 we just don't know but what we do know 516 00:23:52,980 --> 00:23:50,770 is that we've merely scratched the 517 00:23:54,630 --> 00:23:52,990 surface of Prince Anders involvement 518 00:23:56,970 --> 00:23:54,640 with Jeffrey Epstein 519 00:23:59,370 --> 00:23:56,980 I think the George Mitchell name is an 520 00:24:00,899 --> 00:23:59,380 interesting name just kind of way out of 521 00:24:03,539 --> 00:24:00,909 left field for most people you would 522 00:24:05,610 --> 00:24:03,549 think but that one I think perhaps could 523 00:24:07,710 --> 00:24:05,620 have some strategic value for Israel 524 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:07,720 right look I mean there are so many 525 00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:09,250 individuals that he rubbed shoulders 526 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:12,159 with and towards the end of his life he 527 00:24:20,250 --> 00:24:15,490 became fascinated with science 528 00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:20,260 and at one point had donated hundreds of 529 00:24:26,130 --> 00:24:23,200 thousands of dollars to PBS to produce a 530 00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:26,140 documentary series about science and in 531 00:24:31,530 --> 00:24:28,720 fact would host retreats in New Mexico 532 00:24:33,180 --> 00:24:31,540 and on his Island where he would rub 533 00:24:36,810 --> 00:24:33,190 shoulders with the likes of Stephen 534 00:24:41,700 --> 00:24:36,820 Hawking this was a guy who was able 535 00:24:46,980 --> 00:24:41,710 through they guessed the suave nature of 536 00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:46,990 his personality to mix with individuals 537 00:24:52,410 --> 00:24:49,360 that seemingly just turned a blind eye 538 00:24:55,049 --> 00:24:52,420 to that track record that was so obvious 539 00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:55,059 to anyone that knew that Hollywood 540 00:25:01,760 --> 00:24:57,130 actors would fly on his low leader 541 00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:01,770 Express without concern or consequence 542 00:25:10,169 --> 00:25:06,130 Epstein had an ability to have people 543 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:10,179 eating out of the palm of his hand yeah 544 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:11,290 there are certain people that you would 545 00:25:16,830 --> 00:25:14,170 think would be more cautious about who 546 00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:16,840 they deal with one in particular Bill 547 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:19,600 Gates it seems as if and I think I got 548 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:21,730 this from your book but that he had 549 00:25:27,810 --> 00:25:25,570 numerous meetings with Epstein after he 550 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:27,820 did his jail time so knowing he's a 551 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:31,090 convicted sex offender Gates had 552 00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:32,890 multiple meetings and guides is not 553 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:34,960 allowed in that I mean there are so many 554 00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:36,970 individuals and institutions that are 555 00:25:44,130 --> 00:25:39,370 connected to this that took Epstein's 556 00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:44,140 money such as Harvard MIT I believe is 557 00:25:50,660 --> 00:25:48,720 another one these are organizations that 558 00:25:53,430 --> 00:25:50,670 obviously don't know how to use Google 559 00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:53,440 because if they did they could find out 560 00:26:01,560 --> 00:25:58,210 what his backstory was but in this age 561 00:26:03,870 --> 00:26:01,570 they didn't and it certainly gave 562 00:26:06,930 --> 00:26:03,880 Jeffrey Epstein a power base in which to 563 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:06,940 opera money will make people do funny 564 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:10,570 things as my dad used to say what about 565 00:26:15,919 --> 00:26:12,490 Bill Clinton do you think that we're 566 00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:15,929 likely to learn that he indulged 567 00:26:20,910 --> 00:26:18,240 everyone asked the question you know 568 00:26:23,430 --> 00:26:20,920 there is no empirical evidence to 569 00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:23,440 suggest that anything nefarious happened 570 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:26,559 with Bill Clinton during his time with 571 00:26:31,070 --> 00:26:29,250 Jeffrey Epstein what we know is that 572 00:26:33,620 --> 00:26:31,080 he tried to say it was only a handful of 573 00:26:37,159 --> 00:26:33,630 occasions that he flew on the private 574 00:26:39,740 --> 00:26:37,169 jet we amounted some 28 occasions that 575 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:39,750 he flew on the private jet so he too has 576 00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:42,090 sought to minimize his involvement but 577 00:26:46,940 --> 00:26:44,400 as I said earlier this was at a time 578 00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:46,950 when his wife as a senator at a time 579 00:26:50,510 --> 00:26:49,049 when she was the Secretary of State and 580 00:26:52,909 --> 00:26:50,520 I don't think him and Jeffrey Epstein 581 00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:52,919 we're talking about the football results 582 00:26:58,399 --> 00:26:55,200 from Friday from Sunday Night Football 583 00:27:01,399 --> 00:26:58,409 they were talking about the u.s. 584 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:01,409 position on issues of international 585 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:03,570 relations that would be of highly 586 00:27:09,500 --> 00:27:06,570 valuable information for these rather 587 00:27:12,380 --> 00:27:09,510 government well by all accounts he was 588 00:27:15,649 --> 00:27:12,390 closer to Clinton than he was to trump 589 00:27:18,710 --> 00:27:15,659 but Trump himself has the infamous quote 590 00:27:20,750 --> 00:27:18,720 that oh yeah I know of this guy and I 591 00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:20,760 know of his fondness for for younger 592 00:27:27,220 --> 00:27:23,130 women and so if even Trump knew that 593 00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:27,230 clearly Clinton do at minimum met and 594 00:27:32,690 --> 00:27:30,080 mango bugs about the Donald Trump lied 595 00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:32,700 when he said that the first he learned 596 00:27:38,330 --> 00:27:35,370 of Jeffrey Epstein was around the time 597 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:38,340 in Palm Beach and the time that that 598 00:27:43,370 --> 00:27:40,650 Trump first started owning the property 599 00:27:45,919 --> 00:27:43,380 known as mera Lago in our book we were 600 00:27:49,610 --> 00:27:45,929 able to place Donald Trump on board and 601 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:49,620 a yacht with Ghislaine Maxwell Jeffrey 602 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:52,650 Epstein Robert Maxwell and the former 603 00:27:57,140 --> 00:27:54,210 Saudi arms dealer 604 00:27:59,870 --> 00:27:57,150 Adnan Khashoggi and ultimately Trump 605 00:28:03,890 --> 00:27:59,880 would go on to buy and antis showed his 606 00:28:06,409 --> 00:28:03,900 yacht and named it after Ivanka just 607 00:28:09,289 --> 00:28:06,419 like Robert Maxwell named his boat lady 608 00:28:11,270 --> 00:28:09,299 Ghislaine Trump named his boat that he 609 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:11,280 bought from Adnan Khashoggi 610 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:14,850 a known associate of Jeffrey Epstein and 611 00:28:21,740 --> 00:28:17,090 someone whom Jeffrey Epstein worked for 612 00:28:23,330 --> 00:28:21,750 Trump named his boat lady Ivanka you 613 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:23,340 could make a movie just about that boat 614 00:28:28,460 --> 00:28:26,490 trip wouldn't you like to have been 615 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:28,470 someone passing drinks around that non 616 00:28:32,299 --> 00:28:30,210 yeah well hopefully maybe the video of 617 00:28:36,350 --> 00:28:32,309 that will be discovered I think might 618 00:28:38,330 --> 00:28:36,360 have been pre pre cellphones ons so let 619 00:28:39,980 --> 00:28:38,340 me throw out a name that may help us say 620 00:28:41,420 --> 00:28:39,990 get into some of the other great 621 00:28:43,070 --> 00:28:41,430 investigations that you've done and 622 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:43,080 books that you've written one that I'm 623 00:28:48,860 --> 00:28:47,010 fascinated by is Woody Allen you know 624 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:48,870 this hold me to movements I think is 625 00:28:54,980 --> 00:28:51,170 getting credited to his son Ronan Farrow 626 00:29:00,100 --> 00:28:54,990 it's incredible to me that Woody's own 627 00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:00,110 son is accusing him of molesting his 628 00:29:07,300 --> 00:29:04,080 Ronan sister Woody's biological child 629 00:29:09,350 --> 00:29:07,310 when she was six or seven years old but 630 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:09,360 before I get your opinion on that let's 631 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:10,770 start with Woody Allen in Epsom because 632 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:13,050 his name does surface related to Epstein 633 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:15,090 what is his connection to Epstein and 634 00:29:21,250 --> 00:29:16,650 they don't sign straighten was sent to 635 00:29:25,370 --> 00:29:21,260 be friends okay and what do you make of 636 00:29:27,860 --> 00:29:25,380 Ronan Farrow accusing his own father of 637 00:29:29,030 --> 00:29:27,870 this I understand that woody was cleared 638 00:29:31,220 --> 00:29:29,040 a couple times and a couple of 639 00:29:33,050 --> 00:29:31,230 investigations but then again Epstein 640 00:29:35,150 --> 00:29:33,060 was essentially been cleared too so we 641 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:35,160 know that wealthy in OJ was cleared so 642 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:36,690 we know wealthy people can be cleared 643 00:29:41,300 --> 00:29:39,210 but it's just stunning to me that that 644 00:29:50,570 --> 00:29:41,310 Ronan makes this accusation about his 645 00:29:52,430 --> 00:29:50,580 father I think the best you know I have 646 00:29:55,090 --> 00:29:52,440 my own personal issues with Ronan Farrow 647 00:29:58,940 --> 00:29:55,100 and the thoroughness of his reporting 648 00:30:02,030 --> 00:29:58,950 and what he has said about me what I can 649 00:30:02,900 --> 00:30:02,040 tell you is that my books a thoroughly 650 00:30:04,940 --> 00:30:02,910 fact-checked 651 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:04,950 and researched and he could learn a 652 00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:08,970 thing or two about that from me so when 653 00:30:13,730 --> 00:30:11,820 it comes to his accusations against 654 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:13,740 woody you don't give them a lot of 655 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:15,690 credibility it sounds like and you would 656 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:17,730 say that basically he's just jumped in 657 00:30:24,970 --> 00:30:20,250 in the camp of being on his mom's side 658 00:30:27,710 --> 00:30:24,980 on this whole ugly ugly situation I 659 00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:27,720 certainly have heard from people close 660 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:30,960 to woody about his position on this case 661 00:30:36,110 --> 00:30:33,210 I have not formed an opinion on this 662 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:36,120 case I speak merely to the most recent 663 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:38,370 reporting that Ronan Farrow has 664 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:41,970 conducted which is flawed and based on 665 00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:45,450 threadbare research and sourcing and I'm 666 00:30:51,950 --> 00:30:47,760 not prepared to give him any more oxygen 667 00:30:53,420 --> 00:30:51,960 and is woody Woody's career over at this 668 00:30:55,330 --> 00:30:53,430 point I yeah I know he had the dispute 669 00:30:57,070 --> 00:30:55,340 with Amazon his last movie was to 670 00:31:00,070 --> 00:30:57,080 in its release I don't know if he has 671 00:31:01,540 --> 00:31:00,080 any new production deal is he done you 672 00:31:04,450 --> 00:31:01,550 know I don't know I don't know what's on 673 00:31:06,010 --> 00:31:04,460 his forthcoming slate I mean Hollywood 674 00:31:10,060 --> 00:31:06,020 is an interesting place isn't it I mean 675 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:10,070 Roman Polanski wins international award 676 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:13,370 after award after award but here in the 677 00:31:19,690 --> 00:31:16,250 United States is considered persona non 678 00:31:21,820 --> 00:31:19,700 grata I think that a lot of the 679 00:31:22,450 --> 00:31:21,830 reporting into Hollywood has been 680 00:31:26,170 --> 00:31:22,460 terrific 681 00:31:28,420 --> 00:31:26,180 it has exposed her if excite to a number 682 00:31:32,670 --> 00:31:28,430 of individuals but what's particularly 683 00:31:34,930 --> 00:31:32,680 important in the era of me2 is 684 00:31:37,570 --> 00:31:34,940 proportionality that there is a 685 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:37,580 difference between a Harvey Weinstein 686 00:31:43,540 --> 00:31:40,490 and others that might be accused of 687 00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:43,550 wrongdoing and the accusation of 688 00:31:49,950 --> 00:31:46,310 wrongdoing also doesn't make one guilty 689 00:31:54,550 --> 00:31:49,960 of the crime I'm a big believer that 690 00:31:57,030 --> 00:31:54,560 victims should not be changed or have 691 00:31:59,170 --> 00:31:57,040 their reputations called into question 692 00:32:01,810 --> 00:31:59,180 simply because they've made the 693 00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:01,820 allegation of sexual assault true or not 694 00:32:06,790 --> 00:32:04,240 they shouldn't be besmirched and 695 00:32:09,220 --> 00:32:06,800 certainly as an editor that oversaw a 696 00:32:10,930 --> 00:32:09,230 number of publications despite having 697 00:32:13,270 --> 00:32:10,940 information that could have besmirched 698 00:32:17,710 --> 00:32:13,280 women and that accused individuals like 699 00:32:19,570 --> 00:32:17,720 Harvey Weinstein of sex crimes I chose 700 00:32:22,270 --> 00:32:19,580 not to publish that information 701 00:32:25,420 --> 00:32:22,280 it's about proportionality and giving 702 00:32:27,580 --> 00:32:25,430 victims the support they need as opposed 703 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:27,590 to tearing down individuals yeah well 704 00:32:30,970 --> 00:32:28,970 speaking of Harvey Weinstein what should 705 00:32:34,300 --> 00:32:30,980 we think of these victims who come out 706 00:32:38,170 --> 00:32:34,310 10 and 15 years later I'm in the never 707 00:32:40,630 --> 00:32:38,180 blame the victim camp of course but we 708 00:32:42,790 --> 00:32:40,640 really need to encourage people to come 709 00:32:45,100 --> 00:32:42,800 out right away I mean I'm not gonna 710 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:45,110 applaud someone so much for coming out 711 00:32:49,780 --> 00:32:47,450 15 years later when it's convenient to 712 00:32:51,790 --> 00:32:49,790 come out and all this [\h__\h] sit in the 713 00:32:53,410 --> 00:32:51,800 fan at Harvey it's a lot easier it's 714 00:32:54,940 --> 00:32:53,420 more difficult to come out when you 715 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:54,950 should come out which is right away yes 716 00:32:59,980 --> 00:32:57,410 it might be damaging to your career at 717 00:33:02,890 --> 00:32:59,990 that point and so they many of them kept 718 00:33:04,540 --> 00:33:02,900 silent but that was for selfish career 719 00:33:06,730 --> 00:33:04,550 reasons that they kept silent at that 720 00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:06,740 point as opposed to coming forward 721 00:33:11,260 --> 00:33:08,720 people need to be taught to do 722 00:33:13,450 --> 00:33:11,270 the right thing if you are sexually 723 00:33:15,340 --> 00:33:13,460 assaulted by someone who likely is 724 00:33:16,210 --> 00:33:15,350 sexually assaulting others you need to 725 00:33:19,419 --> 00:33:16,220 come forward and come forward 726 00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:19,429 immediately look I don't think we can 727 00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:21,289 see hearing judgment about this because 728 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:22,880 we weren't in their shoes 729 00:33:31,390 --> 00:33:26,770 we weren't placing this in our line that 730 00:33:33,820 --> 00:33:31,400 the testimony of the victims of Harvey 731 00:33:36,940 --> 00:33:33,830 Weinstein has been incredibly powerful 732 00:33:41,260 --> 00:33:36,950 it has been shocking and it seemingly 733 00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:41,270 has showed a pattern of consistent 734 00:33:46,539 --> 00:33:43,760 behavior I think we're living in a 735 00:33:50,890 --> 00:33:46,549 different time I don't think people 736 00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:50,900 would not not report sexual crimes today 737 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:53,809 I hope not I hope that's one of the 738 00:33:57,789 --> 00:33:55,730 lessons that that is coming from this is 739 00:33:59,770 --> 00:33:57,799 that I think happens god but I think we 740 00:34:04,060 --> 00:33:59,780 can judge anyone for not speaking 741 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:04,070 forward in an era that has evolved 742 00:34:09,250 --> 00:34:06,650 significantly for the right reason can 743 00:34:12,609 --> 00:34:09,260 we judge someone who participated in the 744 00:34:15,790 --> 00:34:12,619 behavior did not report it and did so in 745 00:34:17,829 --> 00:34:15,800 order to advance her career if that took 746 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:17,839 place I'm sure that the jury has to make 747 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:21,530 a determining factor as to whether or 748 00:34:27,010 --> 00:34:24,050 not they believed it was a consensual 749 00:34:28,510 --> 00:34:27,020 relationship or not that's up to the 750 00:34:31,089 --> 00:34:28,520 jury that has been selected in the 751 00:34:32,589 --> 00:34:31,099 Weinstein trial yeah but you know I 752 00:34:34,510 --> 00:34:32,599 think we believe that Weinstein was 753 00:34:36,879 --> 00:34:34,520 engaging in this conduct where in order 754 00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:36,889 to get a role you had to do what he 755 00:34:42,490 --> 00:34:39,440 asked you to do which is 1,000% 756 00:34:46,510 --> 00:34:42,500 inappropriate but also inappropriate for 757 00:34:48,070 --> 00:34:46,520 the woman to engage in that that's my 758 00:34:50,409 --> 00:34:48,080 question is you know will we ultimately 759 00:34:52,869 --> 00:34:50,419 learn which women engaged in that and it 760 00:34:56,139 --> 00:34:52,879 in advance their careers as a result you 761 00:35:00,089 --> 00:34:56,149 know I sympathize with the notion that 762 00:35:02,829 --> 00:35:00,099 they were intimidated or felt that they 763 00:35:05,650 --> 00:35:02,839 were forced into or coerced into this 764 00:35:06,940 --> 00:35:05,660 situation I have myself not speak to 765 00:35:09,550 --> 00:35:06,950 that because I've never been in that 766 00:35:12,670 --> 00:35:09,560 situation but many people will tell you 767 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:12,680 that this is a natural reaction for 768 00:35:17,890 --> 00:35:15,410 women in those scenarios and my heart 769 00:35:21,099 --> 00:35:17,900 bleeds for anyone that has been sexually 770 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:21,109 assaulted by any of these individuals or 771 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:21,570 anyone 772 00:35:27,110 --> 00:35:24,570 at all Michael Jackson we did a deep 773 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:27,120 dive on in response to the HBO 774 00:35:33,260 --> 00:35:29,810 documentary I found it to be incredibly 775 00:35:34,850 --> 00:35:33,270 compelling it was stunning to me the 776 00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:34,860 fervor of his fans and all the blowback 777 00:35:40,100 --> 00:35:37,710 that we got as a result of simply airing 778 00:35:42,770 --> 00:35:40,110 talk to me about about Michael Jackson 779 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:42,780 blow that because I can remember vividly 780 00:35:49,310 --> 00:35:45,450 during the Conrad Murray trials on Nancy 781 00:35:52,190 --> 00:35:49,320 Grace and I had said horny lies that 782 00:35:54,740 --> 00:35:52,200 Michael Jackson was a drug addict and my 783 00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:54,750 phone which was between my legs so it 784 00:36:02,090 --> 00:35:58,530 wasn't seen on camera went ballistic 785 00:36:05,540 --> 00:36:02,100 with people sending me hate tweets 786 00:36:12,170 --> 00:36:05,550 because I said Michael Jackson was a 787 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:12,180 dragon unlike any group that I've ever 788 00:36:20,930 --> 00:36:17,010 ever seen and spices Michael Jackson was 789 00:36:23,450 --> 00:36:20,940 a dragon of course and a pedophile 790 00:36:26,770 --> 00:36:23,460 now did you receive height miles from 791 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:26,780 the Jackson supporters oh yeah oh yeah 792 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:28,890 one of the funniest interviews we did 793 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:30,810 was with his former bodyguard who said 794 00:36:37,010 --> 00:36:33,330 that that Michael was into women I'm 795 00:36:38,420 --> 00:36:37,020 like I've never seen him act be with a 796 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:38,430 woman or in a way that that a man would 797 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:40,290 be with a woman and I asked him for 798 00:36:44,750 --> 00:36:42,450 evidence of that and he told some crazy 799 00:36:46,670 --> 00:36:44,760 story about them picking up a girl by 800 00:36:48,170 --> 00:36:46,680 the sidewalk but Michael even never took 801 00:36:50,270 --> 00:36:48,180 the girl out so we had no evidence of 802 00:36:53,090 --> 00:36:50,280 Michael ever being with women 803 00:36:54,590 --> 00:36:53,100 I found again the the two guys that came 804 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:54,600 forward it was I mean they would have 805 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:55,890 had to have been the greatest actors in 806 00:37:02,150 --> 00:36:57,890 the world to put together that 807 00:37:04,670 --> 00:37:02,160 performance and it just makes too much 808 00:37:06,380 --> 00:37:04,680 sense it that is the profile of a 809 00:37:09,010 --> 00:37:06,390 predator is that they put themselves in 810 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:09,020 situations they had access to children 811 00:37:16,850 --> 00:37:14,010 so I hope that will be released lighted 812 00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:16,860 this year that I finished late last year 813 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:20,310 called back which is an investigation 814 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:22,770 into Michael Jackson's life and this was 815 00:37:27,980 --> 00:37:24,570 a particularly important book for me 816 00:37:29,900 --> 00:37:27,990 because I grew up in that era as a young 817 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:29,910 kid listening to Michael Jackson and I 818 00:37:33,230 --> 00:37:31,170 wanted to return 819 00:37:36,260 --> 00:37:33,240 through my own reporting and using my 820 00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:36,270 own skillset whether or not the man that 821 00:37:44,900 --> 00:37:41,760 I revered was either the pop icon that 822 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:44,910 he is or whether he had a twisted double 823 00:37:49,970 --> 00:37:47,130 life and it was particularly important 824 00:37:52,220 --> 00:37:49,980 to me as well because of that level of 825 00:37:55,940 --> 00:37:52,230 hate mail that I had received that I 826 00:37:58,490 --> 00:37:55,950 take a very objective view into this 827 00:38:01,730 --> 00:37:58,500 investigation and the conclusion of my 828 00:38:05,569 --> 00:38:01,740 book in many ways will shock a lot of 829 00:38:09,170 --> 00:38:05,579 Michael Jackson supporters because there 830 00:38:12,260 --> 00:38:09,180 are instances where I found and saw 831 00:38:14,359 --> 00:38:12,270 evidence that would suggest that Michael 832 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:14,369 Jackson did highly inappropriate things 833 00:38:20,420 --> 00:38:17,970 in fact I open up the book recounting 834 00:38:23,030 --> 00:38:20,430 seeing a piece of video that's never 835 00:38:26,210 --> 00:38:23,040 before been released that really calls 836 00:38:28,730 --> 00:38:26,220 into question his judgment as a person 837 00:38:31,130 --> 00:38:28,740 well whilst there is nothing sexual in 838 00:38:33,349 --> 00:38:31,140 the video there are young children and 839 00:38:36,829 --> 00:38:33,359 there are Michael and it's in a bedroom 840 00:38:39,890 --> 00:38:36,839 setting in that instance he'll act 841 00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:39,900 horrible horrible judgment as for the 842 00:38:47,020 --> 00:38:44,400 testimony of Wade Robson and James save 843 00:38:49,460 --> 00:38:47,030 sup I think I believe you pronounce it I 844 00:38:52,579 --> 00:38:49,470 examined the evidence quite 845 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:52,589 significantly I do believe that they 846 00:38:56,900 --> 00:38:54,690 were telling the truth 847 00:38:59,690 --> 00:38:56,910 but I don't necessarily believe that 848 00:39:01,910 --> 00:38:59,700 their story is a hundred percent 849 00:39:04,390 --> 00:39:01,920 accurate because I don't believe it can 850 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:04,400 be I don't believe that you can recall 851 00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:10,530 in explicit and unimpeachable ways what 852 00:39:16,549 --> 00:39:14,250 happened so many decades earlier that's 853 00:39:19,970 --> 00:39:16,559 not to impugn the reputation of those 854 00:39:23,089 --> 00:39:19,980 two gentlemen that's just to say I think 855 00:39:28,910 --> 00:39:23,099 the story as told in Finding Neverland 856 00:39:30,859 --> 00:39:28,920 perhaps was overblown because of the 857 00:39:32,569 --> 00:39:30,869 nature of the style of the documentary 858 00:39:34,990 --> 00:39:32,579 but you have no doubt that that both of 859 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:35,000 them were molested by Michael listen I 860 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:38,970 believe their version of events I can't 861 00:39:44,180 --> 00:39:41,130 see their motivation to come forward and 862 00:39:46,130 --> 00:39:44,190 claim otherwise 863 00:39:48,020 --> 00:39:46,140 in all of your research did you find 864 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:48,030 anything that caused you to question 865 00:39:54,020 --> 00:39:49,530 whether he was inappropriate with his 866 00:39:56,299 --> 00:39:54,030 own children no no and and biologically 867 00:40:00,170 --> 00:39:56,309 are any of them as far as you know his 868 00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:00,180 biological child again this will rile up 869 00:40:22,359 --> 00:40:17,730 the hey yeah there you go are you 870 00:40:26,930 --> 00:40:22,369 starting sorry did you want to reprise 871 00:40:29,059 --> 00:40:26,940 oh the who is he the biological father 872 00:40:31,339 --> 00:40:29,069 of any of those three children I mean 873 00:40:36,049 --> 00:40:31,349 this is a answer that will probably rile 874 00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:36,059 up the Jackson mafia on paper yes in 875 00:40:43,099 --> 00:40:40,319 reality not let's move on to two more 876 00:40:46,339 --> 00:40:43,109 before I let you go Aaron Hernandez I 877 00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:46,349 just finished that documentary and I 878 00:40:52,910 --> 00:40:50,250 think you know we all know about CTE and 879 00:40:54,980 --> 00:40:52,920 clearly that apparently having an effect 880 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:54,990 in his violence and you know I have a 881 00:40:59,960 --> 00:40:56,970 theory that OJ Simpson probably if we 882 00:41:02,960 --> 00:40:59,970 stop this plane right I mean now his 883 00:41:06,799 --> 00:41:02,970 actions are just unexplainable but for 884 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:06,809 CTE but the new angle is gays in the NFL 885 00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:09,690 you know another gay man is interviewed 886 00:41:13,839 --> 00:41:11,760 that played for the Patriots and you 887 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:13,849 really cause you to wonder how many 888 00:41:19,549 --> 00:41:16,770 closeted NFL players or for that matter 889 00:41:22,069 --> 00:41:19,559 in any other sports there is it's 890 00:41:24,589 --> 00:41:22,079 probably far more than people think I 891 00:41:28,370 --> 00:41:24,599 have no doubt in any sport there would 892 00:41:30,289 --> 00:41:28,380 be a level of people that are in the 893 00:41:33,109 --> 00:41:30,299 closet that have not come out for fear 894 00:41:36,319 --> 00:41:33,119 of retribution and you know that's a sad 895 00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:36,329 indictment on society in 2020 that 896 00:41:41,329 --> 00:41:38,250 someone can't live the life that they 897 00:41:44,269 --> 00:41:41,339 want to live for fear of retribution in 898 00:41:48,769 --> 00:41:44,279 regards to Aaron Hernandez it's quite 899 00:41:51,380 --> 00:41:48,779 apparent that he was bisexual had a gay 900 00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:51,390 romance with his high school lover who I 901 00:41:55,779 --> 00:41:53,730 interviewed as part of my book and the 902 00:41:59,559 --> 00:41:55,789 documentary that premiered that I 903 00:42:03,109 --> 00:41:59,569 created an executive produced for reals 904 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:03,119 but I also spoke with one of the last 905 00:42:10,130 --> 00:42:05,970 people to intimately know him and that 906 00:42:13,539 --> 00:42:10,140 was Kyle Kennedy someone who was his 907 00:42:16,460 --> 00:42:13,549 jail cell mate in the Souza buranovskiye 908 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:16,470 Correctional Facility in Massachusetts 909 00:42:24,650 --> 00:42:20,250 who was number 2 - Hernandez behind bars 910 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:24,660 as a member of the Bloods gang and an 911 00:42:30,140 --> 00:42:27,450 individual who says that Aaron had told 912 00:42:33,319 --> 00:42:30,150 his fiancee that he was gay that he 913 00:42:36,410 --> 00:42:33,329 tortured his soul tellingly 914 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:36,420 and strikingly regardless of his 915 00:42:41,269 --> 00:42:38,130 sexuality 916 00:42:44,839 --> 00:42:41,279 Kyle Kennedy said that Aaron Hernandez 917 00:42:47,539 --> 00:42:44,849 admitted to killing four people during 918 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:47,549 his life now we know that he killed Odin 919 00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:49,410 Lloyd for which he was found guilty he 920 00:42:53,930 --> 00:42:51,359 was acquitted of the double murder in 921 00:42:55,609 --> 00:42:53,940 Boston according to Carl Kennedy he 922 00:42:58,460 --> 00:42:55,619 admitted that he did that behind bars 923 00:43:02,569 --> 00:42:58,470 and a fourth never before known murder 924 00:43:04,220 --> 00:43:02,579 and if you get a chance to watch Aaron 925 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:04,230 Hernandez killing fields which is 926 00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:08,010 on-demand via the realz network and he's 927 00:43:14,420 --> 00:43:10,250 being repeated on a number of occasions 928 00:43:16,579 --> 00:43:14,430 by the network you will learn about an 929 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:16,589 individual by the name of Jordan Miller 930 00:43:23,380 --> 00:43:19,410 who looked remarkably like Odin Lloyd 931 00:43:25,039 --> 00:43:23,390 and was it was shot killed murdered 932 00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:25,049 execution-style 933 00:43:31,309 --> 00:43:27,839 two weeks before Odin Lloyd was killed 934 00:43:35,390 --> 00:43:31,319 and we know that Aaron Hernandez was 935 00:43:39,079 --> 00:43:35,400 merely 1.3 miles away the night in 936 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:39,089 question before Jordan Miller was 937 00:43:44,410 --> 00:43:41,970 ultimately killed is that an unsolved 938 00:43:47,690 --> 00:43:44,420 murder he remains to this day an 939 00:43:50,329 --> 00:43:47,700 unsolved murder and mourners in jail for 940 00:43:52,549 --> 00:43:50,339 it no one is in jail for it I have 941 00:43:54,650 --> 00:43:52,559 spoken to the family of Jordan Miller 942 00:43:56,420 --> 00:43:54,660 they believe that Aaron Hernandez 943 00:43:59,240 --> 00:43:56,430 committed this crime 944 00:44:02,089 --> 00:43:59,250 him and his cronies and all the evidence 945 00:44:03,029 --> 00:44:02,099 would point to yet another classic Aaron 946 00:44:06,609 --> 00:44:03,039 Hernandez 947 00:44:09,089 --> 00:44:06,619 execution mob-style here yeah well I 948 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:09,099 definitely support the idea that that 949 00:44:12,670 --> 00:44:10,970 you know people need to feel more 950 00:44:16,059 --> 00:44:12,680 comfortable in coming out you would 951 00:44:17,829 --> 00:44:16,069 think in today's society that there 952 00:44:19,809 --> 00:44:17,839 would be more openness to it athletics 953 00:44:22,109 --> 00:44:19,819 is a whole different animal but you know 954 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:22,119 I think of the ellen degeneres 955 00:44:26,109 --> 00:44:24,170 getting the award at the Golden Globes 956 00:44:27,930 --> 00:44:26,119 and the woman coming up and crying about 957 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:27,940 how the fact that you know seeing Ellen 958 00:44:32,380 --> 00:44:31,130 freely live her life as a gay woman and 959 00:44:35,380 --> 00:44:32,390 then the freedom that that gave her and 960 00:44:38,620 --> 00:44:35,390 so on and yet half of Hollywood it seems 961 00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:38,630 to me is in the closet you have so many 962 00:44:42,549 --> 00:44:40,400 people in the closet in Hollywood that 963 00:44:45,460 --> 00:44:42,559 if they were to be coming out as Ellen 964 00:44:47,859 --> 00:44:45,470 DeGeneres did what positive things they 965 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:47,869 could be doing for for the gay community 966 00:44:53,950 --> 00:44:51,410 but they hide in the closet it seems to 967 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:53,960 be to protect their careers well they 968 00:44:57,809 --> 00:44:55,490 fear that there will be a repercussion 969 00:45:00,160 --> 00:44:57,819 on their career and I think that's just 970 00:45:03,010 --> 00:45:00,170 silliness in this era I think it would 971 00:45:05,289 --> 00:45:03,020 be applauded for those that might be in 972 00:45:07,029 --> 00:45:05,299 the closet to come out yeah I think that 973 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:07,039 we've seen again and again I mean it was 974 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:09,170 pretty rough for people like Ellen but 975 00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:12,650 at this point Society is advanced to the 976 00:45:18,220 --> 00:45:15,049 point so one of the publication's I used 977 00:45:20,859 --> 00:45:18,230 to edit was the National Enquirer and it 978 00:45:24,220 --> 00:45:20,869 was infamous for its covers not under my 979 00:45:27,910 --> 00:45:24,230 rule of who's gay and who's not but that 980 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:27,920 was a kind of stereotype that forced 981 00:45:31,569 --> 00:45:29,930 people to remain in the closet and when 982 00:45:33,970 --> 00:45:31,579 I took over I said we're never doing a 983 00:45:36,819 --> 00:45:33,980 cover like that ever again we're never 984 00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:36,829 gonna out a Hollywood celebrity if we've 985 00:45:40,990 --> 00:45:38,960 got information that says they have not 986 00:45:43,870 --> 00:45:41,000 disclosed their sexuality because it's 987 00:45:46,269 --> 00:45:43,880 really of no one's it's it's no one's 988 00:45:48,430 --> 00:45:46,279 news other than their news any they want 989 00:45:50,980 --> 00:45:48,440 to tell it let them tell her but the 990 00:45:54,670 --> 00:45:50,990 notion that they won't tell it because 991 00:45:58,660 --> 00:45:54,680 they could suffer in Hollywood as a 992 00:46:01,450 --> 00:45:58,670 result is a sad part of reality yeah 993 00:46:02,710 --> 00:46:01,460 yeah I have some connections here and 994 00:46:05,019 --> 00:46:02,720 talking to somebody without naming names 995 00:46:06,970 --> 00:46:05,029 a particular individuals chosen to stay 996 00:46:09,460 --> 00:46:06,980 in the closet and his answer is that you 997 00:46:11,769 --> 00:46:09,470 know well middle America wouldn't 998 00:46:14,300 --> 00:46:11,779 wouldn't accept but accepted and this is 999 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:14,310 somebody who's on a show that's big and 1000 00:46:18,740 --> 00:46:17,010 Middle America but I just think they're 1001 00:46:20,030 --> 00:46:18,750 wrong III you know it's this back we're 1002 00:46:23,300 --> 00:46:20,040 thinking to think a know everybody in 1003 00:46:25,970 --> 00:46:23,310 the you know the Midwest is still you 1004 00:46:27,380 --> 00:46:25,980 know in living in the nineteen fifty is 1005 00:46:28,970 --> 00:46:27,390 and I don't think that's the case I 1006 00:46:30,290 --> 00:46:28,980 think that they proven again again that 1007 00:46:34,780 --> 00:46:30,300 they will be accepted look at the 1008 00:46:38,090 --> 00:46:34,790 popularity of man paid Buddha change and 1009 00:46:40,430 --> 00:46:38,100 what he is finding simply would go to 1010 00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:40,440 show that I think society is made giant 1011 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:44,400 strides towards accepting people for 1012 00:46:50,750 --> 00:46:47,370 whomever they and I think that's a great 1013 00:46:53,980 --> 00:46:50,760 thing yeah last one is Jeff Bezos what 1014 00:46:57,770 --> 00:46:53,990 is wrong with this guy why is he staying 1015 00:47:00,170 --> 00:46:57,780 with this Lauren Sanchez who apparently 1016 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:00,180 shared his dick pics with her brother so 1017 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:03,890 he could go profit off of them nice try 1018 00:47:13,610 --> 00:47:10,170 any questions no Jeff Bezos I think the 1019 00:47:16,310 --> 00:47:13,620 the law suits over the last couple of 1020 00:47:20,570 --> 00:47:16,320 days have been interesting and I'm sure 1021 00:47:22,850 --> 00:47:20,580 the true story about what happened with 1022 00:47:25,610 --> 00:47:22,860 Jeff Bezos will come out in the fullness 1023 00:47:27,260 --> 00:47:25,620 of time okay well let that one go while 1024 00:47:28,610 --> 00:47:27,270 we finished with just one Trump question 1025 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:28,620 and this is gonna be easy one for you to 1026 00:47:34,010 --> 00:47:31,770 answer is there anything that you're 1027 00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:34,020 aware of regarding Trump that he just 1028 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:36,240 seems he seems very clean to me I before 1029 00:47:39,710 --> 00:47:38,130 a guy that's been in a realist in real 1030 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:39,720 estate for as long as he was in in New 1031 00:47:43,670 --> 00:47:41,490 York and so on I expected there'd be way 1032 00:47:46,310 --> 00:47:43,680 more dirt on this guy than there has he 1033 00:47:47,900 --> 00:47:46,320 it then appears to be pretty clean is 1034 00:47:50,900 --> 00:47:47,910 there anything out there though that you 1035 00:47:52,790 --> 00:47:50,910 think that trunk fears that the public 1036 00:47:54,770 --> 00:47:52,800 doesn't know about that that they could 1037 00:47:58,820 --> 00:47:54,780 still come out well according to Ryan 1038 00:48:02,600 --> 00:47:58,830 Farrow there are 60 stories 60 stories 1039 00:48:04,700 --> 00:48:02,610 that I personally killed to protect the 1040 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:04,710 president I don't know what Ronan Farrow 1041 00:48:09,830 --> 00:48:07,770 smoking but there were not 60 stories 1042 00:48:12,590 --> 00:48:09,840 that were killed in support of President 1043 00:48:14,990 --> 00:48:12,600 Donald Trump and what's more mr. Farrow 1044 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:15,000 doesn't know my political allegiance so 1045 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:17,370 why would I do something to support the 1046 00:48:24,500 --> 00:48:21,450 president if I'm not in fact a supporter 1047 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:24,510 of the Republican Party I am not aware 1048 00:48:29,780 --> 00:48:27,690 of any story about 1049 00:48:33,950 --> 00:48:29,790 the president that is not being 1050 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:33,960 published a story of dirt or scandal 1051 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:38,130 that remains hidden and will never see 1052 00:48:43,250 --> 00:48:40,410 the light of day it doesn't exist 1053 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:43,260 but according to Ronan Farrow I killed 1054 00:48:50,300 --> 00:48:47,610 60 of them it's why my lawyers continue 1055 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:50,310 to maintain our position on Ronan Farrow 1056 00:48:56,830 --> 00:48:54,810 and that there is active legal measures 1057 00:49:00,740 --> 00:48:56,840 being taken across multiple countries 1058 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:00,750 about his lack of judgment and his lack 1059 00:49:05,930 --> 00:49:03,210 of reporting skills well I appreciate 1060 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:05,940 that Dylan let's please not in this 1061 00:49:11,330 --> 00:49:07,290 though by you telling me you're a Bernie 1062 00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:11,340 supporter I don't have a dog in there 1063 00:49:15,890 --> 00:49:13,440 fine I don't get the ability to vote in 1064 00:49:17,660 --> 00:49:15,900 this country oh oh oh that's right 1065 00:49:18,950 --> 00:49:17,670 that's right you you've got you got your 1066 00:49:19,970 --> 00:49:18,960 own problems with uh with the royal 1067 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:19,980 family back home 1068 00:49:24,860 --> 00:49:22,890 no I'm Australian well Australian well 1069 00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:24,870 the royal family still over Australia 1070 00:49:28,700 --> 00:49:26,910 right yes yes they still govern the 1071 00:49:31,460 --> 00:49:28,710 country but we've had six prime 1072 00:49:34,430 --> 00:49:31,470 ministers in in ten years so we have our 1073 00:49:36,620 --> 00:49:34,440 own political issues and I don't seem to 1074 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:36,630 want to wade into the u.s. political 1075 00:49:40,910 --> 00:49:39,090 crisis of the month fair enough will you 1076 00:49:42,350 --> 00:49:40,920 come from a beautiful country I hope the 1077 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:42,360 fires are under control I was lucky 1078 00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:43,530 enough to go there a couple years ago 1079 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:45,920 for the Australian Open and had a ball 1080 00:49:49,580 --> 00:49:47,970 well thank you very much for having me 1081 00:49:51,050 --> 00:49:49,590 on the program it's been an absolute 1082 00:49:52,070 --> 00:49:51,060 pleasure alright don't thank so much